The Resilient Pastor

Send a text In this episode, Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas and Sharon Hodde Miller explore what it looks like to lead well with your board of elders. Drawing from personal experience and Barna insights, they discuss alignment, shared authority, healthy accountability and the spiritual rhythms that shape strong pastor–elder relationships. Whether you’re planting a church or strengthening an existing leadership team, this conversation offers practical wisdom for cultivating trust, clarity and re...

Send a text In this episode, Glenn Packiam sits down with Edgar Sandoval, president and CEO of World Vision, to explore what it means to lead through change while staying grounded in mission. Drawing from his experience navigating organizational disruption and global humanitarian challenges, Edgar reflects on steady leadership, spiritual resilience, and the practices that sustain leaders under pressure. The conversation also highlights the impact of global missions and how churches can partne...

Send us a text Rich Villodas sits down with Tyler and Kirsten Staton for a candid conversation about staying connected in marriage while navigating the demands and transitions of ministry life. They reflect on communication, emotional safety, and vulnerability between spouses, as well as the importance of recognizing and honoring one another’s spiritual gifts. The conversation also explores simple, sustainable approaches to prayer and what faithfulness looks like for couples walking through s...

Send us a text In this episode, Rich Villodas joins pastors Gabe and Jeanette Salguero to discuss what it means to pastor families in today’s church with greater awareness and care. Drawing on decades of pastoral leadership experience and insights from Barna research, the conversation explores the changing realities shaping modern family life. Together, they examine how pastors and church leaders can lead with presence, listen well to families’ needs, and develop family ministries that ...

Send us a text In this episode, Rich Villodas, Glenn Packiam, and Sharon Hodde Miller join Barna CEO David Kinnaman to unpack new research on pastoral relationships. The conversation explores the tension between strong marriages and relational loneliness, and why friendship, spiritual direction, and community are essential for long-term pastoral resilience. Download Parenting the Open Generation at worldvision.org/resilient26Get your own copy of new Barna report, The Relationships of Today...

Send us a text Sharon Hodde Miller sits down with Bryan Loritts to discuss the future of preaching and why knowing your congregation is essential for faithful communication. They talk about navigating justice topics with biblical grounding, speaking into cultural pressure with integrity, and maintaining credibility in a skeptical age. Bryan also weighs in on the opportunities and limits of AI in sermon preparation. Text BARNA to 55123 to get your free Mission-Based Budgeting guide from BELAY,...

Send us a text Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas, and Sharon Hodde Miller explore how pastors can disciple their churches toward worshipful, year-round generosity rooted in trust and vision. Framed by Barna research, they discuss how to cultivate healthy giving cultures, build trust with congregants, and wisely guide churches through year-end giving seasons and large capital campaigns. Text BARNA to 55123 to get your free Mission-Based Budgeting guide from BELAY, helping pastors and churches thriv...

Send us a text In this episode, Sharon sits down with leadership coach Jenni Catron (founder of the 4Sight Group) to discuss what it takes to cultivate and sustain a thriving church staff culture. Together, they unpack how trust, clarity, and intentional systems help teams flourish, while reminding leaders that every role in the church is mission critical. Jenni offers practical wisdom for building trust through character and competency, creating healthy feedback rhythms, and stewarding the s...

Send us a text Barna’s newest research reveals a stunning reversal: for the first time in decades, men are attending church more than women. Host Rich Villodas sits down with David Kinnaman and Ashley LaLonde from Barna to unpack what’s driving this shift and what it means for pastors and leaders. From purity culture to politics, Gen Z to single moms, this conversation offers both empathy and practical insight for churches navigating today’s changing spiritual landscape. Episode Links Text BA...

Send us a text In this episode of The Resilient Pastor Podcast, Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas, and Sharon Hodde Miller discuss how pastors can lead with wisdom and calm in polarized times. Drawing from Barna research and their own pastoral experiences, they explore what it means to be a non-anxious presence, when to speak (and when to stay silent), and how to shepherd a politically diverse congregation with humility, prayer, and conviction. Episode Links Free Resource from Our Partner, BELAY...

Send us a text Sharon Hodde Miller talks with Nona Jones about how rejection can shape your purpose and strengthen your ministry. Drawing from her own experiences in leadership, Nona shares how pastors can process hurt, set healthy expectations in relationships and stay resilient in the face of challenges. Episode Links Download Barna's Thriving Church booklet for 15 key dimensions of church health at barna.com/measuring-what-matters.Check out Nona Jones's book, The Gift of Rejection, wherev...

Send us a text Rich Villodas talks with Jackie Hill Perry and Preston Perry about navigating the pull of technology, setting healthy family rhythms and keeping their marriage strong in the midst of ministry demands. They share honest insights on creating space for connection, managing digital distractions and trusting God with the pressures of parenting and leadership. Episode Links Download Barna's Thriving Church booklet for 15 key dimensions of church health at Barna.com/measuring-what-ma...

Send us a text Sharon Hodde Miller talks with Robby Angle about relational discipleship, building small groups that foster real growth and why changing church culture takes time. They explore practical steps for investing in leaders, cultivating meaningful relationships and trusting God with the slow but lasting work of discipleship. Episode Links Learn how RightNow Pastors Plus equips ministry leaders with on-demand training at rnow.me/plus.Check out True Face for resources on relati...

Send us a text Rich Villodas talks with Tyler Staton about helping people experience God in meaningful ways. They explore practical steps for creating space for the Holy Spirit, how to pastor in a spiritually open culture and why awakening desire is key to connecting with today's generation. Tyler also shares insights on preaching, prayer and learning to lead with courage. Episode Links Download Barna's Thriving Church booklet for 15 key dimensions of church health at barna.com/measuring-wha...

Send us a text Glenn Packiam sits down with Dr. Daniel Muvengi (from World Vision International) to discuss the challenges pastors in Kenya are navigating, the pressures of parenting in ministry and how the Church is working to strengthen families. They also explore ways that churches in the West can learn from the resilience and perspectives of the global church. Episode Links Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.Get World Vision’s free resource on parenting: Parenting the Op...

Send us a text David Kinnaman sits down with Lisa Fields, founder and CEO of the Jude 3 Project, to discuss how pastors can disciple people through doubt, deconstruction and spiritual disappointment. She shares practical wisdom on listening well, fostering spiritual healing and leading from a place of emotional health. Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas and Sharon Hodde Miller open the conversation by reflecting on the realities of deconstruction in their own ministry contexts, the importance of cu...

Send us a text Rich Villodas sits down with Jennie Allen, founder of IF:Gathering and Gather25, to talk about mobilizing the global church and discipling the next generation. Jennie describes the growing spiritual hunger she’s witnessing across the world, how pastors can help their churches connect with the global movement of God, and why now is the time for believers everywhere to unite in prayer, worship and mission. She also shares the vision behind Gather25, a 25-hour global event that wi...

Send us a text In this episode, Glenn Packiam sits down with Jay Kim, lead pastor of WestGate Church in Silicon Valley, to discuss how to cultivate healthy teams in ministry. Jay shares actionable insights on fostering trust, navigating generational shifts in team dynamics and implementing consistent feedback loops to support growth and alignment for church teams. Episode Links Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.Sign up for the free State of the Church 2025 webcast at StateoftheChu...

Send us a text Glenn Packiam sits down with Shaila Visser, National Director of Alpha Canada and Dan Blythe, Global Youth Director for Alpha, to explore how pastors and church leaders can reimagine evangelism in today’s cultural landscape. Together, they share key findings from The Open Generation research and the creation of the Youth Alpha film series, offering practical insights on fostering intergenerational ministry, empowering young leaders and creating authentic spaces for faith explor...

Send us a text Join Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas and Sharon Hodde Miller for a special live recording of The Resilient Pastor podcast as they explore the unique challenges ministry places on marriages. Together, they share practical insights, actionable steps and key strategies to help leaders safeguard their relationships and overcome common hurdles. Whether you're looking to strengthen your partnership or connect with others navigating similar challenges, this episode offers valuable wisdom...

Send us a text Join Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas and Sharon Hodde Miller for another season of conversations to equip you in your ministry work. In this upcoming season, we’ll be covering more pressing topics, including the relational health of pastors, engaging with the work of the global church and practical ministry challenges for pastors and leaders. New episodes start on January 2, 2025 and will be released every other Thursday. Subscribe to never miss an episode! - Follow a...

Send us a text Pete Scazzero sits down with Rich Villodas to reflect on the lessons learned from his ministry journey. Together, they discuss the unique temptations pastors need to be on guard against, practical ways for pastors to lead out of their marriage and advice for the young leaders to sustain in ministry long-term. Episode Links Watch this episode on Barna’s Youtube ChannelWatch the full State of Pastors webcast replayAccess the State of Pastors journal on Barna Access PlusCh...

Send us a text Jimmy and Irene Rollins join Sharon Hodde Miller to share their own journey of overcoming addiction and unpack some of the unique challenges facing pastors’ marriages. They also share some practical ways pastors can guard the health of their marriages and offer guidance on ways congregations can better support pastors and their families. Episode Links Watch this episode on Barna’s Youtube ChannelWatch the full State of Pastors webcast replayAccess the State of Pastors journal...

Send us a text Glenn Packiam and Mark Matlock discuss how pastors can create a church environment that is open to spiritual exploration, what needs to change in our current approach to reaching the spiritually curious and some practical tips to starting those conversations. Episode Links Watch this episode on Barna’s Youtube ChannelWatch the full State of Pastors webcast replayAccess the State of Pastors journal on Barna Access PlusLearn more about Mark Matlock’s latest book, Faith Fo...

Send us a text Rich Villodas sits down with Megan Fate Marshman to discuss the impact of grief on spirituality and how her own grief journey has affected the way she leads. Together, they discuss different struggles she has faced as a preacher and how to slow down in today’s hustle culture. Episode Links Watch this episode on Barna’s Youtube ChannelWatch the full State of Pastors webcast replayAccess the State of Pastors journal on Barna Access PlusLearn more about Megan Marshman’s la...

Send us a text On today’s episode of the Resilient Pastor Podcast, Glenn Packiam and Reward Sibanda discuss the gaps in spiritual openness between the Church and the next generation, the impact of digital spaces and how spiritual disciplines like fasting are connected to holistic renewal. Episode Links Watch this episode on Barna’s Youtube ChannelWatch the full State of Pastors webcast replayAccess the State of Pastors journal on Barna Access Plus Partner Resources Download World Vision’s ...

Send us a text Michael Wear sits down with Glenn Packiam to discuss what it looks like for Christians to engage in politics, how spiritual health impacts the state of our politics and some practical ways to navigate political conversations. Michael also shares his personal experience working in the White House and the challenges he’s faced as a Christian in politics. Episode Links Watch this episode on Barna’s Youtube ChannelWatch the full State of Pastors webcast replayAccess the Sta...

Send us a text Daniel Im joins Glenn Packiam to discuss the challenges and opportunities of leading a church in a post-everything world. Together, they explore the historical context of the church growth movement and its impact on church leadership, emphasizing the critical importance of developing robust discipleship pathways and the key role pastors play in guiding congregations toward spiritual growth and maturity. ___ Episode Links Watch this episode on Barna’s Youtube ChannelWatch the ...

Send us a text In this episode, Glenn, Rich and Sharon sit down to discuss the challenges pastors face in gaining and maintaining trust amidst a crisis of credibility. Then, Lisa Whittle shares her personal experience as the daughter of a pastor who experienced a public fall, emphasizing the need for accountability, compassion and grounding faith in Jesus to rebuild trust and resilience in ministry. ___ Episode Links Watch this episode on Barna’s Youtube ChannelWatch the full State of Pastors...

Send us a text Carey Nieuwhof sits down with Glenn Packiam to talk about the trends he is noticing among younger generations of church leaders, lessons he learned from his pastoral succession at Connexus Church and practical advice he’d give to young leaders entering into ministry. Episode Links Watch this episode on Barna’s Youtube ChannelWatch the full State of Pastors webcast replayAccess the State of Pastors journal on Barna Access PlusLearn more about Carey Nieuwhof’s Art of Lea...

Send us a text In this interview from the State of Pastors webcast, Dr. Anita Phillips joins Sharon Hodde Miller to discuss the similar emotional/mental health risk factors that pastors and entrepreneurs face, the trauma leaders face from relational losses in their churches and the ways that elder boards can better support pastors to get the help they need when they’re struggling. Episode Links Watch this episode on Barna’s Youtube ChannelWatch the full State of Pastors webcast replayAccess t...

Send us a text Join Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas and Sharon Hodde Miller for more conversations on pastoral well-being, church leadership and navigating the pressing cultural challenges of today. New episodes start on May 23, 2024 and will be released every other Thursday. Subscribe to never miss an episode! Follow along on Youtube. Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcast

Send us a text John Mark Comer (teacher, author, founding pastor of Bridgetown Church) sits down with Rich Villodas to discuss what he’s learned as he stepped back from pastoring, why he’s underwhelmed by a Sunday-centric model of discipleship and the formative power that a rule of life has played in his personal life and leadership. Sign up for the State of Pastors Summit. Learn more about John Mark’s new book, Practicing the Way. Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group Want to ...

Send us a text David Kinnaman (CEO, Barna Group) joins Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas and Sharon Hodde Miller to explore current trends in spiritual openness, the factors that contribute to people distancing themselves from the Church and how understanding people's spiritual backstories can be a gateway for meaningful faith conversations. Sign up for the Resilient Pastor cohort. Learn about The Intentional Year by Holly and Glenn Packiam. Partner Links World Vision: Visit WorldVision....

Send us a text N.T. Wright (theologian and author) discusses with Glenn Packiam what he has learned about the gifts of prayer and lament in the church, trends he is seeing in vocational satisfaction for pastors and the encouragement that Paul’s letter to the Romans has to offer pastors and teachers. Sign up for the Resilient Pastor cohort. Early bird registration ends December 31, 2023. Learn more about N.T. Wright’s latest book, Into the Heart of Romans: A Deep Dive into Paul's Greatest Le...

Send us a text Jeanne Stevens (pastor of Soul City Church in Chicago, IL) joins Glenn Packiam to share about how her church is engaging their local community, rethinking what global partnership can look like and what she’s learning about the power of presence through her own leadership journey. Sign up for the Resilient Pastor cohort. Early bird registration ends December 31, 2023. Learn more about Jeanne’s latest book, What’s Here Now, and discover how you can get involved with World ...

Send us a text Gabriel Salguero (pastor of The Gathering Place in Orlando, FL) sits down with Rich Villodas to discuss when to discuss national and local issues, finding balance between the priestly and prophetic callings of pastors and the importance of relational support for church leaders. Together, they also discuss trends he’s observing within the Latino church community and insights they offer for the broader church. Sign up for the Resilient Pastor cohort today. Early bird registrati...

Send us a text Jess Connolly (author, church planter, coach) talks with Sharon about the overlooked causes of burnout among church leaders. Together, they talk about the importance of not making exceptions to your limitations, the power of the ministry of absence and the important role of rest and time management for sustainable ministry. Check out Jess’s upcoming book, Tired of Being Tired: Receive God’s Realistici Rest for Your Soul-Deep Exhaustion. Sign up for the Resilient Pasto...

Send us a text Ike Miller joins Glenn Packiam to discuss the valuable insights he has gained from church planting, how painful childhood experiences and trauma shape pastor’s leadership styles and how to harness childhood wounds as a source of strength in addressing the needs of your congregation. Check out Ike’s latest book Good Baggage: How Your Difficult Childhood Prepared You for Healthy Relationships. Sign up for the Resilient Pastor cohort today. Early bird registration ends D...

Send us a text Faith Eury Cho (co-pastor of Mosaic Covenant church) and Glenn Packiam discuss how to handle God's absence, developing awareness of His presence and managing ministry challenges during wilderness seasons. Plus, in the introduction discussion, Rich, Sharon and Glenn share their experiences in leading during spiritually dry spells and encouragement on expanding our understanding of God's presence. Check out Faith’s latest book Experiencing Friendship With God: How the Wildernes...

Send us a text Ken Shigematsu (Senior Pastor of Tenth Church in Vancouver, BC) joins Glenn Packiam to talk about the role of confession in overcoming shame, the healing power of embracing God’s grace and how a rule of life can help leaders set healthy rhythms of rest and formation in their lives. Check out Ken’s latest book Now I Become Myself: How Deep Grace Heals Our Shame and Restores Our True Self. Sign up for the Resilient Pastor cohort launching January 31, 2024. Watch this ...

Send us a text Chuck DeGroat (professor, therapist, author) sits down with Sharon Hodde Miller to talk about how unhealed trauma can cause future leadership challenges and narcissism, practical ways pastors and church leaders can move towards healing from their past and how to lead confidently without feeling overly inhibited by the fear of being a narcissist. Check out Chuck’s latest book When Narcissism Comes to Church. Sign up for the Resilient Pastor roundtables this Fall 2023. ...

Send us a text Season 4 of The Resilient Pastor podcast will be back on Tuesday! Join Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas and Sharon Hodde Miller for more conversations on pastoral health, church leadership and navigating complex challenges in today’s culture. New episodes start on September 19. Share the Season 4 trailer, and subscribe to The Resilient Pastor wherever you listen to your podcasts.

Send us a text Beth Moore (author, speaker, teacher) talks with Sharon Hodde Miller about staying open through criticism, lessons she’s learned from her years in ministry and leaving a legacy for future generations of church leaders. Additionally, Sharon, Glenn and Rich discuss the impact that a leader’s family of origin and patterns of trauma can have on how they show up in their ministry roles. Beth’s memoir, All My Knotted-Up Life, is available wherever you buy books. Want to learn mor...

Send us a text Bianca Olthoff (church planter, author, speaker, podcaster) sits down with Sharon Hodde Miller to talk about some of the emotional tolls of preaching, developing resilience through her journey with church planting and navigating the leadership challenges of political and cultural polarization. Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcastBook Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter:...

Send us a text Nijay Gupta (New Testament professor at Northern Seminary) joins Glenn Packiam to talk about what we often misunderstand about the role of first century Greco-Roman women in society, unpack some of the language around titles and roles in the early church and offer practical ways to support women in churches and seminaries today. Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcastBook Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group Follow Barna at: I...

Send us a text Lucy Peppiatt (Principal of Westminster Theological Centre) talks with Glenn Packiam about the role of spiritual disciplines in our lives with God, creating room for the Holy Spirit in both planned and spontaneous parts of ministry and differentiating between outpourings, renewal and revival. Join Barna for a FREE webinar on June 8, The Summer Sabbatical: Why You Need One and 4 Ways to Make the Most of It. Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative?&nbsp...

Send us a text Dr. Heather Thompson Day (Associate Professor of Communication at Andrews University) discusses with Glenn Packiam why Gen Z in particular has such a desire for mentorship and relationships, how to communicate more effectively in your sermons through storytelling and the role of technology in connecting with the younger generations. Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcastBook Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group Follow Barna a...

Send us a text Ed Stetzer (incoming dean of the Talbot School of Theology at Biola University) sits down with Glenn Packiam to comment on some of Barna’s latest research on spiritual openness, the unique opportunities for evangelism in this current moment and why missiology and theology matters for everyday church ministry decisions. Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcastBook Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group Follow Barna at: Insta...

Send us a text Kara Powell (Executive Director of Fuller Youth Institute) joins Glenn Packiam to share about the power of intergenerational relationships, how good ecclesiology forms the development that happens in youth ministries and the impact of young people for the broader Church. Sign up for the Barna & MOPS webinar, ‘Engaging Moms: The Evangelism Strategy No One Is Talking About But Should Be’ today! Registration now open. Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiativ...

Send us a text Esau McCaulley (Associate Professor of New Testament at Wheaton) talks with Rich Villodas about the formative practice of following liturgical time, observing Lent as an act of humility and preaching on challenging scripture passages. Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcastBook Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group WorldVision: Get access...

Send us a text Tim Mackie (co-founder of the BibleProject) shares what it looked like for him to study scripture while being a pastor, ways to equip others to engage deeper in the Biblical narrative and how he continues to find deep delight in reading the Bible. Learn more about the BibleProject at bibleproject.com. Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcastBook Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twit...

Send us a text Listen in as this season's co-hosts–Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas and Sharon Hodde Miller–share what they're looking forward to ahead in Season 3! Subscribe and leave a review wherever you listen to podcasts to stay tuned for the episodes to come this season. - Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcastBookWatch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group

Send us a text In this special bonus episode, Glenn Packiam is joined by his wife, Holly Packiam, to talk about the reflection process they use to start each new year. Together, they offer some practical ideas for looking back on the year that has passed, identifying themes for the year ahead and putting this vision into practical rhythms for your daily life. Learn more about The Intentional Year at www.glennpackiam.com/intentionalyear. - Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor init...

Send us a text Derwin Gray (pastor of Transformation Church) joins Glenn Packiam to discuss the important role the multi-ethnic church plays in today’s divided culture, moving your church beyond diversity as the end goal and shepherding people to see new perspectives on the Gospel. Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcastBook Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Grou...

Send us a text Todd Proctor (founder of Rock Harbor church and Executive Leader with Alpha USA) sits down with Glenn Packiam to talk about discipling young leaders, preparing your church for leadership transitions and the changes he’s seen in the culture of churches using Alpha as an evangelism tool. Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcastBook Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @barnagroup F...

Send us a text Danielle Strickland (author, speaker) joins Glenn Packiam to discuss how she’s discovered hope amidst challenging seasons, the connection between humility and hope and practical spiritual disciplines to help us move past cynicism. Interested in the prayer Danielle shared? Check it out at https://infinitumlife.com/daily-prayer. Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PageCity RoundtablesPodcastBook Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna Grou...

Send us a text Jenni Clayville (pastor at National Community Church) sits down with Glenn Packiam to talk about the systems her team uses for leading across multiple church campuses, what it takes to build a team of diverse perspectives and creating a foundation of relationships with your church staff. Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PageCity RoundtablesPodcastBookWatch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup ...

Send us a text Kaitlyn Schiess (writer and speaker) sits down with Glenn Packiam to talk about being formed by the political and cultural worlds around us, engaging with faith in seasons of political turmoil and what we can learn by taking an audit of our ongoing spiritual and cultural practices. Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PageCity RoundtablesPodcastBook Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @b...

Send us a text Pete Greig (founder of 24-7 Prayer) talks with Glenn Packiam about how to hold a successful corporate prayer gathering, what he’s seeing with prayer movements around the world and ways to hold space for both scripture and prophecy. Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PageCity RoundtablesPodcastBook Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group World Visi...

Send us a text Noemi Chavez (pastor of Revive Church in Los Angeles, CA) shares about the trends she’s seeing in the Latino Church, the impact of bi-vocational (or “co-vocational”) leaders and some of the challenges that church planters are having to navigate. Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PageCity RoundtablesPodcastBook Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group Wor...

Send us a text Raymond Chang (TENx10 Senior Director of Partnerships at Fuller Seminary) talks about the challenges that Asian Americans have faced over time in the United States, the gifts the Asian American Church has to offer the broader Church and practical steps for seeking unity amidst difference. Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PageCity RoundtablesPodcastBook Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagro...

Send us a text Christine Caine (founder of A21 Campaign, speaker, author) sits down in-person with Glenn Packiam to talk about bridging the gap between evangelism and justice work, the unique challenges women in the Church are facing and the hunger for the presence of God that she’s seeing in Gen Z. Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PageCohortCity RoundtablesPodcastBook Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup T...

Send us a text Russell Moore (Editor in Chief at Christianity Today) joins Glenn Packiam to discuss how pastors can engage well in the civic space, redefining what Christian nationalism looks like and understanding the threat Christian nationalism plays for the Church today. Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcastCohortCity RoundtablesBook Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @barnagroup Faceb...

Send us a text In this summer bonus episode, Glenn Packiam sits down to answer listener questions, including: How can I navigate political tensions and divisions in my congregation and from the pulpit?How do you balance being a boss and a friend to your staff?How are you approaching deconstruction in younger generations?What would you say to someone considering entering ministry at a later age who feels it might be too late? What advice would you give someone who just finished seminary a...

Send us a text Scott Sauls (Senior Pastor of Christ Presbyterian Church in Nashville, TN) joins Glenn Packiam to share how he’s preached on his own journey with mental health, the prophetic shift he’s seeing in public dialogue and practical ways for leaders to shepherd their people well through challenging seasons. Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcastCohortCity RoundtablesBook Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group Follow Barna at: Instagra...

Send us a text Ruth Haley Barton (author and founder of the Transforming Center) joins Glenn Packiam to discuss the transformative practice of sabbath, how technology disrupts our ability to rest and the deep inner-work of taking a sabbatical. Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcastCohortCity RoundtablesBook Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group Connect with ...

Send us a text Sharon Hodde Miller (teaching pastor, author) sits down with Glenn Packiam to talk about managing the anxiety of the people you are leading, differentiating between agency and control and the challenges she has faced leading through the pandemic. Brotherhood Mutual: Get your free Pastor Kit by visiting brotherhoodmutual.com/barna. Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcastCohortCity RoundtablesBookWatch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group ...

Send us a text Ashlee Eiland (pastor and writer) joins Glenn Packiam to talk about how she stays grounded in seasons of transition, what she has learned about co-leading a church and key takeaways on delegating responsibilities in challenging seasons. -- WorldVision is partnering with Barna to offer an upcoming webcast called Resilient Leadership for Kingdom Come. Get free access to the Activation Guide today at worldvision.org/ResilientPod! Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor in...

Send us a text Jay Kim (pastor at WestGate Church) sits down with Glenn Packiam to discuss digital platforms as a new doorway for churches, how online spaces shape Christian’s spiritual formation and redemptive ways for leaders to engage in social media. -- WorldVision is partnering with Barna to offer an upcoming webcast called Resilient Leadership for Kingdom Come. Get free access to the Activation Guide today at worldvision.org/ResilientPod! Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor...

Send us a text Sean Palmer (Teaching Pastor at Ecclesia Houston) talks with Glenn Packiam about the important role of preaching in a pastor's calling and vocation. Together, they explore how sermons are tied to a pastor’s sense of identity, the role of the Enneagram in leadership development and some practical advice for today’s young preachers. -- WorldVision is partnering with Barna to offer an upcoming webcast called Resilient Leadership for Kingdom Come. Get free access to the Activatio...

Send us a text Dr. Joy Clarkson (author and theologian) joins host Glenn Packiam to discuss a new definition of happiness for believers, how we understand our limitations through the metaphors we choose and the importance of accepting your circumstances as a leader. - Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcastCohortCity RoundtablesBook Connect with Joy Clarkson at Joyclarkson.com. Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group Follow Barna at: Inst...

Send us a text Steve Cuss (author, consultant) sits down with Glenn Packiam to discuss the challenges of cultivating close friendships as a pastor, encouragement for leaders addressing their own mental health and why loneliness is a systemic issue for many pastors. - Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcastCohortCity RoundtablesBook Connect with Steve Cuss at stevecusswords.com. Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group Follow Barna at: Instag...

Send us a text Tara Beth Leach (pastor, preacher, writer) joins host Glenn Packiam to share about leading through personal loss and grief, finding hope in the local church and her encouragement for women leading in ministry. - Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcastCohortCity RoundtablesBook Connect with Tara Beth Leach and check out her latest book, Radiant Church, through her website at TaraBethLeach.com. Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna G...

Send us a text In this first episode, Rich Villodas (Pastor of New Life Fellowship) joins host Glenn Packiam to talk about pastoral health and the effects of trauma. Together, they discuss setting healthy boundaries as a pastor, how the Church can grow in trauma awareness and why the health of the pastor is vital for the well-being of the broader church community. - Visit Barna.com/ResilientPastor to buy the book (releasing February 15) and learn more about the broader initiatives for pastors...

Send us a text Join pastor and Barna Senior fellow, Dr. Glenn Packiam, as he invites leaders to think out loud together about the challenges and opportunities of church leadership in a rapidly changing world. In each episode, he will highlight a key bit of Barna data or an insight into the challenges pastors are facing. Then, he’ll host a conversation with a pastor, church leader, thinker or theologian about the health of the pastor, the state of the church and what it looks like to love well...