EP286 - Jon Pyle on Disappointment, Timing, and Authenticity in Faith

Length: 1hr 0min

Ministry Education

Released on 9/22/2025

Dive into Unfiltered Chats on Disappointment, Integrity, and Keeping It Real in a Hyper-connected World The Church Digital Podcast is brought to you by Riverside. Check out how Riverside can help your church's content-creation process - <a href="http://thechurch.digital/riverside" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">http://thechurch.digital/riverside</a> Dealing with the 'Not Yet' Moments Jeff Reed kicks things off by getting real about those moments when life doesn't play by the script - yeah, we're talking dashed hopes and divine delays. Jon Pyle jumps in, dropping some wisdom about how our journey can get messy when things don't happen on our timeline, kind of like how ancient dude David felt waiting to be king and all. With our lives splashed across Instagram and TikTok, Jon's keeping it 100 about how easy it is to slip into a fake-it-till-you-make-it mode. They chew over how the urge to look perfect online can mess with your head and heart. It's a no-holds-barred talk on the danger of losing yourself in the quest for likes and retweets. Ever wondered if the digital church vibe could get super specific, like talking to just one part of the huge global crowd? That's what's up when Jeff shouts out Jon's convo with Kyle Berkholder. They hash out how digital can hit the spot with peeps in specific situations, even though it's kinda tough to zero in when you're casting a wide net every Sunday. Winding down, Jeff shares his health journey, but it's not all heavy - Jon cracks us up pretending to be a Russian spambot. It's a classic TCD finish, where real talk meets real laughs, and just like that, you're reminded why these two have one of the coolest digital bromances around. <ul> <li>00:00 Introduction</li> <li>05:44 Exploring fear and improving performance in life.</li> <li>10:32 Discussing soul care and integrating it digitally.</li> <li>20:42 Pastoral care involves helping people in pain.</li> <li>25:45 Struggling with faith amid disappointment and pain.</li> <li>30:03 Struggle with dependency and patience in faith.</li> <li>35:44 Comparing success and temptation to hide.</li> <li>44:54 Agree on need for qualitative digital connections.</li> <li>49:39 Jeff goes deep with Jon.</li> <li>56:35 Themes of mental health, generational talk highlighted.</li> <li>58:59 Realizing God's bigger plans amid disappointment.</li> </ul> Host: Jeff Reed Founder, The Church Digital Guest: Jon Pyle Rumored Russian Spambot <ul> <li>Jeff Reed speaks about the challenges of physical limitations and patience. Can you share a time when you similarly had to adjust your expectations and find reliance on divine timing? </li> <li>Jon Pyle speaks to the value of the "messy, painful middle" of our life experiences. How do you navigate this phase, and what theological perspectives help you endure it? </li> <li>In what ways can digital platforms impact our ability to live authentically, and how might we guard against presenting a false image of ourselves online? </li> <li>Drawing from Jon Pyle’s remarks on church leaders' moral failings, what can everyday believers do to maintain their integrity in both digital and non-digital spheres? </li> <li>Jeff and Jon discuss the difficulty of creating a generational digital church. How do you think different generations can effectively connect within digital church communities? </li> <li>Considering the conversation about soul care and mental health, how can we as individuals prioritize both in our lives, particularly in the fast-paced digital age? </li> <li>Jon Pyle likens pastoral care to being a battlefield medic. How do you see the role of pastors evolving to meet the needs of congregants' mental health and soul care? </li> <li>Share a personal experience where technology played a key role in creating a connection or a deeper relationship. What made it meaningful? </li> <li>Reflecting on Jon Pyle’s insights regarding doing what God called us to do, how do you deal with the timing of your life goals and divine calling? </li> </ul>