Bayside Church Senior Pastor Mark Clark flips the mic and joins Carey in his basement studio for a wide-ranging personal conversation. Carey discusses how the podcast got started, how and why it grew, burnout, and the power of staying grounded amid a sea of change and growth.  This fun conversation will make you feel like you're hanging out with Carey and Mark after a great dinner. *To Enter the 10th Anniversary Giveaway*: Leave a review on your podcast platform and enter at CNLP.live Show Notes Ultimate Guide to Healthy Church Conflict On The Rise Newsletter Preaching Cheat Sheet Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork Listen to The Mark Clark Podcast   This episode is sponsored by: THE ART OF NAVIGATING CHURCH CONFLICT Reduce the conflict at your church and unite people around a shared and growing mission in as little as 5 minutes a day, with my brand new course The Art of Navigating Church Conflict. Visit artofchurchconflict.com to learn more.   Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network