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You want your wife and kids to grow closer to Jesus. But what happens when you don’t feel close to him yourself?

With a cup of coffee on the back patio, Jerrad wrestles with a question that came up twice at men’s events this week—and one he’s faced in his own life. He shares how shame, exhaustion, and the quiet belief that we can handle life without God can leave us feeling spiritually distant.

Through a story about hiking with his kids, Jerrad offers a picture of spiritual leadership that makes room for a dad who’s still figuring things out: a guide who helps his family notice what God is already doing.

If you’re carrying the weight of everyone’s faith while struggling with your own, this conversation offers encouragement and one simple step you can take with your kids today.