The Herdmans are the worst kids anyone has ever known. They are loud, wild, and always causing trouble. So when they crash the church Christmas pageant, everyone expects chaos. But as this unruly crew hears the Christmas story for the very first time, it begins to change them in surprising ways, reshaping the entire pageant and themselves along the way. This week on The Great Stories Podcast, David Wollen talks with movie director Dallas Jenkins about creating the film and what makes this story so meaningful for audiences.