Frank Kaminsky played eight seasons in the NBA and was a first round pick after a stellar career at Wisconsin, where he led his team to two Final Fours and was the 2015 Naismith college basketball player of the year.

Today on the podcast, Matt Forte talks to Frank Kaminsky about his fandom for the Chicago Bears, the phone call he got from Michael Jordan, playing in two Final Fours with Wisconsin, growing in his faith and becoming a dad.

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