In today's episode, the guys are rejoined by guest Pat Nemmers to discuss the unsettling topic of rebellion. Christians sometimes have a tendency to use our children as a trophy of our own sanctification, and forget about grace. The scriptures give us truisms for parenting but these are not guarantees. Without the faithful work of Christ, none of our kids could be saved. Thus, we should not take any credit, but offer it to God. In this discussion, Patrick recalls for us the rebellion of his ...