Phil delivers a "Gunsmoke"-style frisking to an Unashamed listener. Jase takes one for the team during a disagreement with Missy and admits there's a lesson it took him 25 years of marriage to learn. The guys talk about the misconception of marriage as a rules-based system, how Jesus treated women, and the misunderstanding many people have about submission. Jase remembers a class called "Should My Wife Be Submissive to Your Husband?" And Phil salutes older women. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices